Month: September 2011

Thorns that do but Perforate – the 7th perforation

Our noble Shaikh Rabee’ bin Haady al-Madkhaly was asked the following:

هل يُشترط في جرح أهل البدع إجماع أهل العصر، أم يكفي عالمٌ واحد فقط؟!!!!! .

هذه من القواعد المميعة الخبيثة – بارك الله فيكم- في أي عصر اشترطوا هذا الإجماع؟ وما الدليل علىهذا الشرط؟ كل شرطٍ ليس في كتاب الله فهو باطل، وإن كان مائة شرط

Is consensus of the scholars of (of any given) time a condition in the refutation/disparagement of the people of innovation, or is one scholar sufficient?

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Thorns that do but Perforate – the 6th perforation

Thaabit ibn Dahhaak narrated,: “A man made a vow to sacrifice a camel at a place known as Buwaana so he asked the prophet صلى الله عليه و سلم about it, so he صلى الله عليه و سلم said,”Did the place have any idol that is worshipped from the idols of jaahiliyyah?” They said, “no”. He صلى الله عليه و سلم said, “Was there in it celebrated an ‘eid from amongst their eids (recurring festivity)?”, they said, “no”. So the prophet صلى الله عليه و سلم said, “Fulfill your vow, verily there is no fulfillment of a vow in the disobedience of Allah…..” [al-hadeeth] (Abu Daud)

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Thorns that do but Perforate – the 4th perforation

Our noble Shaikh Zaid al-Madkhlay was questioned concerning an individual who refuses to accept the ruling of the scholars in their refutations against – and exiting out of salafiyyah – those who oppose the methodology of the salaf…instead he states “I am not convinced”, or “that is the opinion of the shaikh, it’s not upon me to accept it”.

قولي فيمن يرد حكم العلماء الذين يردون على من خالف منهج السلف الصالح أنه : متكبر

I say concerning the one who rejects the ruling of the scholars who refute the opposers of the methodology of the righteous salaf; he is arrogant…..

لأن حكم العلماء السائرين على نهج السلف الصالح في العقيدة والشريعة حق ولا يرد الحق إلا ظالم ولا سيما إذا كان الراد لحكم العلماء يعلم أن المخالف لمنهج السلف منحرف عن الحق

….because the ruling of the scholars who are treading upon the methodology of the righteous salaf in ‘aqeedah and legislation is the truth, and the truth is not rejected except by a wrong-doer, especially if the rejector of the ruling of the scholars knows that the opposer of the methodology of the salaf (the one being refuted) is deviated from the truth.

>>> The Thorns that do but Perforate – the 5th perforation‏

False Principles of The People of Bidah

“We Correct Mistakes But We Do Not Make Jarh”

Imaam Abdul Azeez Bin Baz (rahimahullaah) said:

”Indeed the criticism from ahlul ilm and rebuttal of one whose rebuttal is an obligation, this is from the affair of giving sincere advice to the Ummah……..”


Imaam Muhammad Bin Saaleh Al-Uthaymeen (rahimahullaah) was asked about the above false principle, so he said:

”This is a mistake, rather we refute the one who willfully opposes the truth.”


Al-Allaama Saaleh Al-Fawzaan was asked about the above false principle, so he said:

”This principle has no foundation…..the people of falsehood must be refuted.”


Al-Allaama Zaid Bin Haadi Al Madkhalee said:

”This principle is not from the principles of the Rabbaani scholars.”



Source: Siyaanatus Salafi Min Waswasati Wa Talbeesaat Ali Al-Halabi; page: 203 onwards


Thorns that do but Perforate

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
الحمد لله و الصلاة و السلام على رسول الله و بعد
This compilation of articles entitled “Thorns that do but Perforate” is a collection of the statements of our noble scholars clarifying aspects of the methodology of the Salaf in dealing with innovators and false methodologies, aspects that have become confused and – on occasion – somewhat purposefully distorted by those who follow desires rather than evidences.
From amongst the techniques employed by the likes of certain associate/s of and their affiliates is to divert attention away from such principles through promoting selective statements from the scholars relating to “busying yourself with knowledge”, and “leave asking about this one and that one”; statements that are accurate and in fact perfectly sound advice that we are accustomed to from our scholars, however such statements are employed in a deceptive manner by these wayward individuals in portraying a false methodology, and then upon complete audacity attributing this methodology to the scholars[!].
We therefore provide to the reader a compilation of statements from our noble scholars relating to the affair of innovators and the correct stance toward them – from amongst the same scholars certain members will claim do not engage themselves in such affairs and instead advise the people to “busy yourself with knowledge”, a deceptive ploy intended to divert attention away from the advice and warnings of the scholars against the people of innovation and desires….perhaps the same people of innovation and desires certain member/s promote and do not clarify their state for agendas and objectives they desire.
We ask Allah to guide these individuals, and pray that they may rectify their path.