Which Solution does Ridiculous Naveed Ayaaz [Madeenah Dot Con/Islaam Nelson] desire for Us?!

In The Name of Allaah The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

Ridiculous Naveed Ayaaz stated: ”I have learnt that such individuals, and their peers in Birmingham, do not desire a solution….” [See full statement here: salaficentre.com/?p=12607 ]

Question to Shaikh Zaid Bin Haadee al-Madkhalee (rahimahullah):

Is there a difference between the verdict against a person that he is from Ahlul Bidah and the verdict that he is a Mubtadi (innovator)? And does the verdict against a person that he is not a Salafi or that he is a hizbi necessitate that he is a Mubtadi (innovator)? Can you please shed light on this affair?


Firstly, you should know:

Indeed Ahlus Sunnah are people who possess fear of Allaah.  They neither make Takfeer, Tafseeq (i.e. declare a person a sinner) and Tabdee (declare a person an innovator) except against the one who deserves it based on the evidences in the Book and the Sunnah, and the understanding of the pious predecessors of this Ummah.

Secondly, you should know:

The people of desires and misguidance are (categorized into) those who are followed and those who follow; Indeed, those who are followed are the ones who set up the various principles of innovation and they call to their innovation and misguidance, and they will carry their burden of sins and the burden of the sins of those whom they misguided without knowledge, as it is clearly stated in the Qur’aan and the Sunnah.

As for the followers of a leader from amongst the people of desires, then in most cases they are of two categories:

The First Category:

Those who possess knowledge, but they harbour evil intentions; so they yield to Satan, desires and the urge of the evil soul. They follow the people of misguidance and oppose the callers to guidance (in that which) Allaah sent His Messenger Muhammad (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) with.

The Second Category:

Their share of knowledge is little, so the people of desires take advantage of them and they become (part) of their group. They convince them that what they call them to is the manifest truth and that what their opponents are upon is falsehood. And they convey to them a huge (number) of shubuhaat, in order to deceive them and submerge them into misguidance.  As for those who are followed—those who set up the principles of bidah and call the people to their bidah and misguidance–then indeed they are attributed to the bidah they innovated and call the people to, and for them there is no honour.

As for the followers of the people of desires, it is as I have stated that they are of two categories in most cases. They are to be called to the Sunnah and to cling to it, and that they (should) reject the bidah they have been deceived by and have yielded to. And if they respond to the call of truth through knowledge and action, and reject that which the people of desires and innovation call them to, then this is what is desired and it is a praiseworthy aim. If they reject the advice of the advisers and bargain with falsehood at the expense of truth, and give preference to innovation over the Sunnah, then they deserve to be assigned the term innovator.

[For further details, see Al-Ajwibah Al-Athariyyah Anil Masaa-il Al-Manhajiyyah, Khamsoona Su’aalan Wa-Jawaaban: page: 18-19:]

 So we say to ridiculous Naveed: This is the solution! It is what we have established based on the verdicts of the scholars against the three figure heads of Bidah and Dalaalah [Halabi, Maghraawi, Maribi], and their staunch follower Abu Usaamah.  As for those who are deceived by Masjid As-Sunnah’s admin, we will do our best to refer them to the students of knowledge whenever they seek clarification, and may Allaah free them from the deceptions of  the dishonest hizbiyyoon.  Aameen.

[الْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ]—we neither established our stances based on the reckless methodology of the Hajaawirah nor the repugnant hizbiyyah of Ihyaa Turaath, Greenlane, Al-Maghrib Institute, Suhaib Hasan and their associates; rather we only followed the verdicts of the scholars of Ahlul Athar- founded upon the knowledge based proofs against Ma’ribi, Halabi, Maghraawi and their staunch follower Abu Usaamah.

Likewise, after Masjid As-Sunnah’s admin persisted upon misguidance and obstinacy, and proclaimed their support for Halabi, Maghraawi and Maribi, we followed the verdict of Al-Allaamah Rabee Bin Haadi Al-Madkhali (may Allaah preserve him) against them. [Video: http://salaficentre.com/2012/06/verdict-upon-masjid-as-sunnah-committee-in-manchester-shaikh-rabees-tele-link-in-2003-2/

Therefore, neither should Naveed turn a blind eye to the facts nor expect us to follow his false assumptions and desires. Neither can the solution be based on the desires and false assumptions of those who are ignorant of the precise methodology of Ahlus Sunnah Wal-Jamaa’ah in dealing with the innovators and their staunch followers, nor can it be based on the solutions of those who attack the people of Salafiyyah and do not differentiate between the upright-knowledge based stances of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaa’ah from the corrupt, deceitful and false stances of the Mu-mayyi-een.

How very revealing is Naveed Ayaaz’s true state of affairs! He has the audacity to accuse the Salafiyyoon of not having a desire for a solution, yet he shows no shame in allying himself with a people who have persisted in their defence of three foremost figure heads of ahlul ahwaa wal-bidah(people of deisres and bid’ah)!  How very revealing it is of him, that Naveed Ayaaz is very eager to make silly and slanderous remarks against the Salafiyyoon, yet he expects to be considered a serious and responsible graduate! Indeed, Naveed must grow up and refrain from uttering such slanderous and absurd accusations. As Ibn Abdi Rabbihi (rahimahullaah) said: ”Choosing speech is more difficult than authorship, and indeed it is said: The choice of a man (in speech) is in harmony with his intellect.” [Source: quoted by Shaikh Muhammad Bin Umar Saalim Baazmool in Manhajul Bahthi Al-Ilmiy Wa-Kitaabah Fee Uloom Ash-Sharee-ah: page: 17]

And Allaah knows best

Note: We do not declare anyone an innovator or a Kaafir, except those whom our scholars have declared to kuffaar or innovators.

For those who do not know, then see the verdicts of the scholars on:

  • Halabi




  • Maribi


  • Maghraawi


  • Refuting falsehood


And to conclude then a reminder for Naveed to be mindful of this! http://salaficentre.com/2013/03/shaikh-abdullaah-al-bukhaari-re


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