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All praise is due to Allaah. We thank Him (The Most High) for protecting us from many of the trials—the trials of Shubuhaaat and Shahawaat. The Salafiyyoon of Al-Markaz As-Salafi in particular must thank Allaah (The Most High) for granting them the Tawfeeq to recognize the truth in many of the affairs of the Salafiyyah Dawah. Therefore, we should be mindful of self-amazement, boastfulness and stubbornness when truth reaches us, because our hearts are not in our control. Likewise, it is incumbent upon us to spread truth with wisdom, fine admonition and firmness after recognizing and acting upon it. Neither should we fear the blame of the blamers nor should we give any attention to anyone who employ tricks and ambiguity in order to evade the clear verdicts of the scholars. Al-Allaamah Ubaid Al-Jaabiri (may Allaah preserve him) was asked a specific question from Manchester via Ustaadh Uwais Taweel (may Allaah preserve him) about those who are worthy of teaching Salafiyyah….
Is it better for us to attend the masjid and seek ilm and learn from the tullaab, or learn in our houses with sisters, even though they may not have a background in knowledge.
Shaykh said: the students of knowledge are known to be Students of knowledge and steadfast upon that (Salafi) then take knowledge from the students of knowledge. As for the sisters, then there is no harm in the sisters teaching as long as the sister has studied in Umm Al- Quraa or an establishment and studied with scholars, then it’s no harm in her teaching.
So Ustaadh Uwais (may Allaah preserve him) continued and asked “what happens if she hasn’t studied?”
So the Shaykh (may Allaah preserve him) said “La (no). Rather she should go to the tullaab the students of knowledge who are well known. But no harm if she has studied in Umm al Qura or with the people of knowledge.” See link: http://www.learnaboutislam.co.uk/audio/uways-at-taweel/uways-at-taweel-talk-2.mp3 [Question starts after 20 Mins—the question was asked specifically to remove all doubts people may seek to propagate in this affair through ambiguous and general statements.
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This post has the full details of the conclusion of the saga of the email shaykh. It makes clear the despicable lies that he attempted to spread, coupled with an example of his inquiring and attempting to entrap and “catch someone out” at any cost – even if it means asking a person “for the sake of Allah” to attest to a lie!
All of his actions are for one simple goal – Place doubt on the Salafi Masjid and Masaajid, to taint their exposition of the innovations and misguidance of Yahyah al Haajoori – His Shaykh. By attempting this he seeks discredit anyone and in turn stop them from clarifying the haddadi manhaj of his shaykh; which in actuality, he himself mirrors.
Either he is:
We will start with the following:
People cling onto a thousand doubts and speculations regarding an affair, whilst deliberately refusing to acknowledge and submit to one truth.
This is the case of the despicable saga of the email Shaykh. He has spent the last few days (of Ramadhaan) battling us (and maybe himself, with the number of times he has invoked the curse of Allah upon himself) with lies, slander and outlandish claims. All this in his burning desire to spread suspicion and rancour between the salafis, in Manchester, Birmingham, the UK, and wherever his emails can reach.
Yet one of the claims which underpins his entire attack against the Salafi Masjid has now been laid bare to waste; shattering his delusional dreams of putting up any truthful defence of his shaykh (al-Hajoori), and attacking the salafis who follow the clear verdicts of the scholars.
The email shaykh has continuously written that the Salafi Masjid “brought a takfeeri to the masjid, to do ruqiyah and charge £50 for it.” He later went onto challenge al-Markaz as-Salafi in an act of ridicule to make mubaahala about this (and other) issues stating “May Allah curse me if I am a liar or lying.”
We at Al Markaz as Salafi knew without a doubt that this statement of his was born out of two things: [Ghulluww] Excessiveness and exaggeration in speech; and rage… rage that his lies were being made clear and rage that his public doubt-filled defence of Al-Hajoori al-haddadi and rejection of the verdicts of Shaykh Rabee’ and Shaykh Ubaid, were being made clear to the people against his wishes; rage at the fact that the reputation he so desperately wished to advertise as a defender and “pillar”[!] of Salafiyyah in Manchester and elsewhere was now slowly but surely deteriorating into the foul-smelling waste rubble of a demolished building rather than a “pillar”!
So due to his persistent lying and transgression, we decided to respond and clarify that his statements were lies, all in the hope that he would recant, make tawbah openly (as he was sending these emails out to whoever he wished), and return to the sound positions of the scholars.
Alas… no such thing materialised, and the email shaykh’s irrationality, delusions of grandeur and boiling blood got the better of him and he continued and persisted upon a delusional lie that a takfeeri was brought to al-Markaz as-Salafi to make ruqiyah in the masjid and charge £50! He cited some individuals who would bear witness to this (fictional) “fact” for him…
So Alhamdulillaah, these witnesses bore witness… they attested to the truth. And so we would like to share with the readers their testimony. We have removed their names, because we understand that the general reader may not even know them. Rather the aim behind this is so that the reader should understand the great lengths this person goes to in lying and twisting, to harm the only Salafi Masjid in his vicinity; and by extension al-Hajoori (albeit on a micro scale).
Below is their response to his desperate appeal to them, to bear witness to the fact that his fictional event (a takfeeri, brought to the masjid by the committee, to do ruqiah in the masjid and charge £50):
Witness 1 (may Allah reward him)
your email below dated 24th May 2009, appears to be factually correct from what i remember of the incident. You mentioned (ruqiah man) was staying (and I add he was actually also doing the Ruqiya) in Levenshulme, this was because the committee of the Masjid did not allow us to organise for him to stay and do the Ruqiya in the flat above the Masjid.
This is the first email and was followed by a reply from the email shaykh to him asking direct questions.
My brother (name removed);
I know that, he was staying in levenshume but initially he came to the Masjid, prayed there and the committee new about him and (brother 1) – to the best of my knowledge was coordinating with him, I say this because I was in the same invite when he phoned (brother 2) from Longsight and said what I mentioned in my email, in addition (brother 1) and others have mentioned that (brother 3) and (brother 4) recommended him, thus I did not lie about them, yet the liars they want to make people to believe that, they had no knowledge of the matter what so ever. My noble brother (name removed again but he is referring to the witness) I ask you for Allaah Almighty sake, were the committee aware of the ruqiyah or not. and did he not stay at the least sometimes or one night in the Masjid. or at the least he came to the Masjid, was (brother 1) not aware of him via (brother 3)
We will look at and examine this in detail shortly by the permission of Allaah. But to continue then the witness replied with the following.
I will try to answer as complete as possible from what I remember. I don’t have any ulterior motives in this affair, as I am well aware how responsible I was for this mistake – May Allah forgive me – so all I can do know is answer the question and pray to Allah it is resolved quickly and completely. Alhumdullilah all of us have learnt now that the best Ruqiyaa is that which is done by ourselves and on/by our own family members.
In response to the direct questions:
Yes the committee become aware when (name removed) and I approached them, and they did not allow it in the Masjid. Since then I believe questions were also asked to the Scholars about this affair, and maybe the brothers can provide all the details (hence i have copied in the Masjid email in if they wish to respond)
No he did not stay in the Masjid. Not even one night, as the committee had not allowed it, and hence the house in Levenshume had been organised. That is were he stayed all of the time as far as I am aware, and I have no knowledge to imply otherwise.
Yes he came to the Masjid to pray, when I brought him there while he was up in north Manchester. If I remember correctly, we prayed and left without hardly any interaction.
When the brothers as a committee decided he should not stay in the flat above the Masjid, then Yes, I believe (name removed) did make the necessary investigations to locate the house in Levenshume. I then organised the logistics of his stay.
The remaining section of the email is not relevant, but we have pasted it in here anyway.
Yes I believe (name removed) become aware of him via (name removed), who initially had taken members of his own family to him in London.
But from what I remember, (name removed) did not know him, and was only aware of him when (name removed) went to him for advice.
I also remember when (name removed) initially mentioned him, there was confusion if he meant another brother who did Ruqiya in London also called (we have deleted the statement of his name and links, as we do not wish to promote this man)
I have copied in the Masjid email for transparency, so if I have made a mistake, anyone is free to rectify or clarify my responses above.
May Allah forgive us for our mistakes & help us all resolve this matter with the greatest of ease, and unite all of the Salafi’s upon the Haqq.
Then first let us start by praising Allah the Most High – who is Ar-Raqeeb [The Ever Watchful Guardian] over everything. And may He reward this brother for his clear honesty, and preserve him upon the Sunnah.
Indeed the reader can see clearly that the email shaykh’s claim (that the masjid brought a takfeeri to do rukia and charge £50) has been shattered by the most credible and prominent witness that he himself called upon! However even when his initial appeal for testimony was answered with “You mentioned (ruqiah man) was staying (and I add he was actually also doing the Ruqiya) in Levenshulme, this was because the committee of the Masjid did not allow us to organise for him to stay and do the Ruqiya in the flat above the Masjid…” the email shaykh was still not satisfied!
Dear readers… look at this desperate attempt to squeeze blood from a stone –
“I know that, he was staying in Levenshume but initially he came to the Masjid…
I ask you for Allaah Almighty sake, were the committee aware of the ruqiyah or not. and did he not stay at the least sometimes or one night in the Masjid. or at the least he came to the Masjid, was (brother 1) not aware of him via (brother 3)”
What kind of sickness is this?! He has his answer (that the man made rukia in levenshulme and NOT in the Salafi Masjid) yet tries his utmost to squeeze out anything to indicate some wrong doing! And to compound it he says “I ask you for the sake of Allah”(!?). So we say – asks him for the sake of Allah for what?! To Lie? What kind of madness and evil is this?!
Alhamdulil-laah the brother did reply to him, and in fact he further clarified everything, and with Allah lies all success!
“they did not allow it in the Masjid”
“No he did not stay in the Masjid. Not even one night, as the committee had not allowed it”
“I then organised the logistics of his stay.”
“when i brought him there… we prayed and left without hardly any interaction.”
And in this one fell swoop his star defence witness became a star prosecution witness against him! By the blessing of Allah he spoke the truth. So now we will move onto the second witness, not to complicate the matter further and waste our time.
Witness 2 – (may Allah reward him)
I bear witness to the fact that this conversation took place in the email; that I did ring the man (the man who made ruqyah) and his son said he was residing in Levenshulme. And as everyone knows the masjid is in Cheetham Hill, not Levenshume.
Please see the map below to show the difference between Cheetham Hill and Levenshulme in Manchester
We hope that this clarifies that Cheetham Hill and Levenshulme are two separate places.
And so we can see the lengths this defender of al-Hajoori goes to attack, slander and discredit the Salafi Masjid…all in the name of his fantasy land, mentally disturbed “truth!” Even his own witnesses whom he was appealing to in a last ditch attempt to prove a fantasy, have attested to the truth of the situation. This has shown the disgraceful and disgusting big lie that he was attempting to spread – has this man no shame?!, the purpose of which was to put shubuhaat in the hearts of the people, and credit himself thereby justifying his erroneous position towards (his Shaykh) al-Haajori.
That lie has turned out to be exactly what is… a fallacy! There was no “rukia in the masjid, by a takfeeri for £50”.
However we at al-Markaz as Salafi wish to bring a further witness in this whole affair… and that witness is non-other than the email shaykh himself?! Now although we do not believe he is a credible witness anyway (due to his excessive lying), then he had written this part of his “report” in 2009, so it shows the record he himself kept of the event.
Witness 3 – email shaykh
He wrote (we have again blotted the name of the brother who is witness 2). It reads as follows (we have deleted all the excess and put “etc” – please bear with it):
Sent: Sunday, 24 May 2009, 13:20
On Saturday my noble brother ——- from ——– came to visit me… (etc)
I asked (the brother) to phone, my friend’s house in London… (etc)
(etc)…. then (brother) phones the guy in Manchester, and he spoke to his son and his son said that he dad is with a guest and they were staying in Levenshulme.
So in a nutshell, after his “investigations” he concluded that this takfeeri, doing ruqiyah, was residing in Levenshulme (south Manchester); whereas the masjid is in cheetham hill – i.e. north Manchester. The email shaykh writes that this man was residing and making ruqiyah there… not as he incessantly now seems to repeat… “takfeeri do ruqiyah in the masjid and charge £50”.
So can this man making ruqiyah, be in two places at once? Or does the email shaykh not know the difference between Levenshulme and Cheetham Hill (click here for google maps)? Perhaps it is his quest of making a reality out of a fictitious event that has blinded him… There is no doubt then that this man is an evil and persistent liar.
Let us put the investigator out of his misery… yes they were in Levenshulme and yes they were doing ruqiyah in Levenshulme– NOT in Al-Markaz as-Salafi – Cheetham Hill.
O’ email shaykh… why do you continue lying that they were in the Salafi masjid in Cheetham Hill?! Can you not read your own writing? This blindness has been inspired by injustice and rage… so it is better that he fears Allaah and stops lying. Indeed (unjustified) anger is a disease of the heart born out of corruption of intention (paraphrased from Shaykh al Islam ibn Taymiyyah – “Diseases of The Heart and their Cures”).
So without factual evidence and him having contradicted himself… can we now expect a tawbah (repentence) from him? An open retraction in full perhaps?
Or is this his “Wallahi I never said it” Abu Usaamah-esque moment?
So we say that this person is in one of two states and there isn’t a third makaan (place) for him. Either he is:
Either way such an individual is not to be trusted–he deliberately lies, plots, conspires and works with half-truth and fallacies. He has deliberately lied and slandered to suit his own goals! So if he does that with this affair then what about all the rest of his accusations!? We cannot take anything from this man when he has now proven himself an unjust irrational liar and a fanatical defender of an innovator and haddaadi (Yahyah al Hajoori).
May Allaah guide him and protect us from the disgraceful falsehood that has plunged him into depths of unjustified rancour, anger, delusion, hatred and persistent lying… “The person tells the truth until he is recorded as truthful, and tells lies until he is recorded as a liar”.
We are awaiting his open full tawbah… and to Allaah belongs all bestowal of the means to guidance and good deeds.
Indeed all praise is due to Allaah, we praise Him, we seek His aid and His forgiveness. We seek refuge with Him from the evil of our souls and from our evil deeds. Whosoever He guides, there is none to misguide and whosoever He leaves to stray, there is none to guide. I bear witness that there is none that has the right to be worshipped except Allaah, alone and without partners – and I bear witness that Muhammad (salallaahu ‘alaihi wassallam) is His slave and Messenger.
This is a brief document outlining the unity of the Salafi Mosques and Islamic Centres in the United Kingdom regarding their position towards the fitnah Yahyaa al-Hajooree (may Allaah guide him and rectify his affair). After reading much of what has been written concerning the disagreement between Yahyaa al-Hajooree and the Salafi scholars, as well as his clear and numerous violations of the Salafi Manhaj, we have taken the position of the Scholars such as `Allaamah Rabee` al-Madkhalee, `Allaamah `Ubaid al-Jaabiree, Shaikh Muhammad bin Haadee and Shaikh `Abdullaah al-Bukhaaree, that he is not to be referred to in affairs of Religion – and one should not travel to Dammaaj (in Yemen) to study with him whilst he is still teaching at that centre [since he has opposed the path of `Allaamah Muqbil bin Haadee al-Waadi`ee]. Furthermore, Yahyah al-Hajooree himself is not considered from the well-grounded scholars. They hold that he is to be warned against, and we take that position also based upon details proofs and evidences. We also hold that one should not study with or enter into disputation with those youth who carry his false methodology to other countries. Upon Yahyaa al-Hajooree and those who traverse upon his methodology from his students and ardent supporters is to fear Allaah, repent to Him, rectify their affair and make clear their return to the truth [from all of their errors] with the same vigor that they made falsehood manifest.
Those who agreed to this document:
المكتبة السلفية والمسجد السلفي، برمنجهام، بريطانيا.
Salafi Publications, The Salafi Masjid and Islamic Centre, Birmingham.
مسجد السنة، برادفورد، بريطانيا.
Masjid as-Sunnah, Bradford, West Yorkshire.
المركز السلفي، منشستر، بريطانيا.
Al-Markaz as-Salafi, Manchester.
مسجد الفرقان، ستوك، بريطانيا.
Masjid al-Furqaan, Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire
مسجد السنة، كرانفورد، لندن، بريطانيا.
Masjid as-Sunnah, Cranford, West London.
مسجد دار السنة، شيبردز بوش، لندن، بريطانيا.
Masjid Daar as-Sunnah, Shepherd’s Bush, London.
المكتبة الأثرية، شرق لندن، بريطانيا.
Al-Maktabah Al-Athariyyah, East London
مركز دار التوحيد، ووليش، جنوب لندد، بريطانيا.
Markaz Dar at-Tawheed, Woolwich, South London
الدعوة السلفية، كردف، ويلز، بريطانيا.
The Salafi Da`wah, Cardiff, Wales.
مركز معاذ بن جبل، سلو، بريطانيا.
Markaz Mu’aadh bin Jabal, Slough, England.
مسجد الهدى، بولتن، بريطانيا.
Masjid al-Huda, Bolton, Lancashire.
المركز السلفي، لفبورة وليستر، بريطانيا.
Al-Markaz as-Salafi, Loughborough & Leicester
المركز السلفي، ريدنج، بريطانيا.
Al-Markaz as-Salafi, Reading, Berkshire
نور الإسلام، توتنهام، بريطانيا.
Light of Islaam, Tottenham, London
مركز دار التوحيد، أكسفورد، بريطانيا.
Markaz Dar at-Tawheed, Oxford
With the scholars speaking against Shaykh Yahyah al Hajoori, it is clear that those afflicted with difficulty in accepting these statements, have started to attack those who bring the clear verdicts of the scholars, to the people, not fearing their blame.
It is clear that they are manifesting the same haddadi manhaj of their Shaykh (see post 7 here by Abu Hakeem). Their petty attacks against “perceived mistakes” are based on clear jahl, misinformation, stitching of statements, half truths and lies.
They are nothing but a smoke screen in order to deflect the attention from the grave an serious mistakes of their Shaykh, Yahyah al Hajoori.
Our dealing with them are the same as our dealings with any supporters of an innovator! It is the same as is with the supporters of Ali Halabi, Abul Hasan al Ma’ribi, Abdur Rahman Abdul Khaaliq, Falih Harbi and the rest of the innovators.
And with Allah is the success!
Al Markaz as Salafi bi Manchester
For more details on the deluded and deplorable position and actions taken by such fanatical supporters please see the following post:
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
The hadith explaining this issue is found in Saheeh Muslim where the prophet صلى الله عليه و سلم stated, “The best of the rows of the women are the last ones and the worst are the first ones”. However, this does not indicate an absolute ruling and there is greater detail as to when this is applicable; as many scholars have explained and hold as the correct opinion. Therefore we present the explanation of Shaikh ibn Baz and Shaikh ibn ul-Uthaymeen on the issue.
[Shaikh ibn Baz]
Q: We are a group of women and we pray in the masjid during Ramadan in a designated seperate area from the men, they do not see us and we do not see them [similar to many masaajid where there are now seperate rooms for women]. I have noticed the sisters do not complete the first rows and do not perfect them [instead they prefer the rows toward the back], and some of them use the evidence from the hadith regarding the best rows being the last ones for this action of theirs. I have explained to them that this relates to a situation where the women are praying behind the men in a given space without a barrier between them, however they do not accept my speech, we request you clarify the affair since this is something that occurs in many masaajid.
A: The hadith mentioned in this regard is authentic, however it is understood by the people of knowledge as you mentioned, and that is a situation where there is no barrier between the men and women. If, however, the women are covered and concealed from the men then the best of the rows are the first ones and the worst are the last ones just like the men. It is therefore upon them to complete the rows from the beginning, from the front, and to close the gaps just like the men due to the generality of the narrations with that regard.
[Based on the Shaikh’s response to the issue, Official Website]
[Shaikh ibn ul-Uthaymeen]
The Shaikh’s response regarding the same issue [summarised]: “The intent [of the hadith] is if the men and women are together in one place, in that instance the last rows are better than the first ones for women, that is since the last ones are further from the men and the first ones are closer to them. If, however, the women have a specific designated place of prayer – as is the case in many masaajid now – then the best rows for the women are the first ones just like the men”.
[Fataawa Arkaan ul-Islam p310/311]
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم